With all four wheels firmly on the tourist trial our next stop was the ancient city of Lijiang, about three and a half hours North West from Dali - an old town of cobbled streets, rickety old wooden buildings and flowing canals. Situated at an altitude of almost 3000 meters the air was much cooler than previous places have been recently, and with a ban of all motor vehicles in the old town the air was… dare we say it.. almost clean! The town is split into two very different parts, the old and the new town, the old being the interesting part and the new being the same as almost every other town in China.
Lijiang is the main town of the large minority group based in this part of the world, the Naxi, who apart from wearing funny clothes have some quite interesting traits. First off is they are the last people in the world to still write using a form of Heiroglyphics which date back over 1000 years, and second is the fact that in their towns the women wear the trousers ( A matriarchal society says Sarah).
The town has a few old men left known as Dongba who are Shamens and the caretakers of the written language, they also act as the mediators between the Naxi and the spirit world and are probably the last few people who know how to write the unique text. We are not sure how much shamanistic acts they carry out now as they are usually hanging round shops writing books and adding text for Chinese tourists souveniers, but seeing someone write using pictograms was so impressive and really gave the feeling of seeing a living dinosaur. We bought a Naxi dictionary just to see the really old man write in the front of it for us.
The Naxi women apparently maintain their hold over men by having a flexible arrangement for love affairs… Their system allows people to get together without setting up a joint residence so the guy and the girl live in their respective homes, at night the guy spends the night at the girls house and during the day he goes back home to work at his mums house which is also where he lives. Any children are looked after the woman who brings them up, the man provides the support until the relationship is over when he would stop with no special effort for paternity. Women also inherit all property and village disputes are settled by what is essentially a big mothers meeting! That’s a meeting made up of lots of mothers not big mummas. This domination by the women also influences their language, we were told that the word female added to a noun would enlarge the meaning and if the word for male is added it decreases it, for example stone + female would mean a boulder and stone + male would mean pebble!
Visiting the old town was very much like being in York or Bath in the middle of the peak tourist season, because of the very narrow streets and its extreme popularity with Chinese tour groups it was packed. Past 9am we were shoulder to shoulder with the red cap megaphone wielding tour goups which very much distracted us from the beauty of the old buildings and waterways. The constant rain added to the danger, not from the threat of being washed away but from all the short ass Chinese people poking our eyes out with their umbrellas. It was like something from an Indiana Jones film, ducking and diving to avoid flying spikes coming towards our eyes!
One of the highlights of the town was the Naxi’s great food, these guys love goats cheese and ham which makes us love the Naxis. Our breakfasts consisted of fired goats cheese, amazing salted ham and huge potato pancake type things, this was a welcome change from the normal Chinese type food. They also cook a huge variety of vegetables and with its tourist site status we were able to find many English menus, which was nice as for once we could pick what we wanted to eat!
Whilst in the town we visited the Mu Mansion, the old residence of the leader of the Naxi. It was destroyed in an earthquake in 1996 so the Chinese have rebuilt the site in a Chinese style… this made it a little boring as it can be added to list of temples and palaces which have all been renovated and repainted in exactly the same style and colours. What separated it from other sites were the waterways running through the site and the fact it was built on a hill so we could walk up and take in the view. The view unfortunately was disappointing as during our time in the temple it rained non stop!
After our time in Lijiang we caught a bus to southern Sichuan to avoid back tracking via Kunming. The journey took us over some high passes via a very windy road. One problem with catching a bus in China on windy roads is the Chinese people’s subseptability to travel sickness… whether its due to their constant eating or because they are not used to traveling almost half the bus starts being sick into bags at some point along the journey, whenever we stop for a break the road is lines with people from the bus throwing up. This combined with some of their other filthy habits can make the journey slightly uncomfortable for us sometimes. The problem is as soon as they stop being sick they sit down and eat a pack of chickens feet or noodles only to throw them up again 30 minutes later???? Why lord why?
Our destination was a city we had never heard of and cannot remember the name of, a large industrial city that spralled along a large river valley for tens of miles but had no mention in our guidebook. The valley was easily one of the most industrialized places we have seen so far on our travels, for over a hour we past many coal and ore mines, and endless other heavy smoky industry. Some plants were pumping out smoke which was bright yellow in colour and the river in the valley was a feable sludgy trickle. We had passed many dams on the journey. After arriving at the bus station we had to get a cab 48km to the train station where we were lucky enough to get a sleeper train the same night onto Chengdu the capital of Sichuan province.
Taking the bus so far in China has had its good and bad points. As an organized system its great, every town and village had a bus station, larger towns and cities have many stations (which can be confusing when you don’t know which one you need) and each station has many buses a day, often as frequently as 20 minuets apart even if the journey is 7 hours or more. The ticket counters are generally easy to use, we show the woman the Chinese characters for the destination and we are given a ticket for the next bus, sometimes it’s a mad dash after she has booked us onto a bus leaving in as little as 3 minutes! The only problems are if it’s a busy station (which is all but the smallest towns) then despite the authorities best effort to impliment a queing system it’s a bit of a scrum to get to the front. Well a scrum is a bit of an exaggeration as about 20% of the people know how to que now but as soon as you let your guard down three or four people would have passed you. Some of the stations we have visited have tried installing some kind of metal gate cattle sorting type contraption, the sort that lines cows up before the slaughterhouse but they still manage to climb over each other and push in. Buying a bus ticket in China requires patience, vigilance and an ability to cast aside any notion of Englishness within your body so you can kick the bastards out the way before they do the same to you!
China is a country constantly on the move, despite buses to most towns every 20 minutes they are almost always full. Every train we have taken has been filled, often booked days in advance in every class. It claims in our guide book that at any moment in time it is estimated there are over 10 million people on Chinese trains… quite a few people! Being crammed so close to people with such horrible habits makes for some really annoying journeys!
Thursday, 31 July 2008
A few short sentences on Dali
Our second day in Dali we decided it was be rather pleasant to hire some bikes and take the road up the west side of the lake and then take a ferry back. Little did we know this Sunday venture would end up being such a bad idea. After getting hold of some bikes we headed out of Dali old town and joined a three lane road out of the town. According to our trusted guidebook the road we had planned to take would be quiet as the tour buses take the lower road nearest the lake, little did we know that due to road works this route was now closed. About two km outside of Dali the three lane road became a narrow one lane in each direction road so very quickly we were chocking on lung full’s of thick sulphurous gritty diesel smoke and literally being run off the road by arrogant arsehole Chinese bus drivers. With drivers overtaking buses constantly despite oncoming traffic we were nothing but another small bump in the road, Sam was hit by a bus wing mirror and we were both almost knocked down more times than we dared to count. This was not the relaxing country cycle to the little village we had in mind so after about 10km we gave up and cycled back annoyed and with hand full’s of big rocks to throw at the next bus that hit us.
The rest of our time in Dali consisted of checking out the town walls, checking out the markets, enjoying the food, enjoying the bad monkey bar – one of the few places in China owned by English people and a visit to the most boring museum we have ever visited.
The rest of our time in Dali consisted of checking out the town walls, checking out the markets, enjoying the food, enjoying the bad monkey bar – one of the few places in China owned by English people and a visit to the most boring museum we have ever visited.
Monday, 7 July 2008
Kunming to Dali
The day we left Kunming was the sunniest day we had seen since arriving back in China, and we were due to be spending the next nine hours of that sunny day on the train. We had been on budget drive when we were sorting out transport to our next destination, Dali. The train was going to be an old, hard seat, slow train. The worst thing about travel like this is, although it is as cheap as chips, you will inevitably be squashed next to a chain smoking, noodle slurping, hacking, spitting man and his equally noisy family. As we were having breakfast the morning we were due to leave reality kicked in and we had a change of heart. Nine hours in a smoky, wooden benched carriage? No thanks! So we cut our losses and headed to the long distance bus station.
Here we quickly managed to get on the next bus heading to Dali. Despite their being a bus every 15 minutes from 7:30am to 7:30pm every bus is jam-packed with people. Even the trains are fully booked two days in advance, there seems to be a constant exodus and exchange of people all over this country. Looking out over all the big gleaming coaches in the bus station I felt a sense of ‘we made the right choice’, now we will be enjoying a shorter trip to Dali in comfy seats and clean air. Of course this was not to be the case, getting pointed towards the only mongrel bus in the station I realized I was silly to think anything else. We climbed onto a cross between a mini bus and really old coach, waited while the driver went and got more people to get on his bus. With people hopping on and off all the time having a chat and going out for a cigarette every few minutes it seemed we would never leave, but eventually, once every available space had been taken we headed off, to the sound of the creaking and groaning of every joint on the bus.
The main reasons against taking the train: noisy, smoky, cramped atmosphere, and time. We were seated just behind the driver, the most dangerous place to be in a bus as collisions are not uncommon here due to the freestyle driving they employ. We always try and move towards the back of the bus but it was not possible this time. Soon after leaving the driver lights up the first of his constant cigarette chain between here and Dali and shuts the window. The good thing about the bus was despite the creaking noises and constant smoke we didn’t have to be sandwiched between a whole Chinese family eating their lunch or dinner., just Sam and I on slightly more cushioned and comfortable seats.
The road to Dali was a good one, a large three lane motorway with not too much traffic and for once the driver drove at a non pant filling speed which was nice as we had the front row seats. Strangely for a Chinese road there were quite a few traffic cops and speed cameras but the drivers radar detector made sure we were not caught. Also policing the road to ensure the highest level of road safety were cardboard cutouts of police women and men every few miles straddling the central reservation.
Cardboard policemen aside, the journey took us past some other strange sights. First up about an hour from Kunming was the world dinosaur valley, not sure what was in the valley but the villages before and after all had dinosaurs painted on the walls. A few hours later we drove through an area obsessed with mushrooms, the small old villages with white washed walls were decorated with huge paintings of mushrooms… and each house had a different type painted on, no two houses were the same. One mushroom village had also built some huge bright yellow concrete mushroom shaped buildings on the hill behind. All in all the journey was a short one by Chinese standards, this was helped by the fact we are both reading books that have the ability to make us fall asleep after 3-5 pages…. Sarah is reading Moby Dick and Sam Catch-22. Despite their literacy status we have not found either particularly fast paced.
Dali is an old Chinese walled town sandwiched between some big mountains to the West and a great big lake to the East. Unfortunately it’s also really touristy with bars and restaurants geared towards western tourists and local minority women trying to hawk marijuana to you whenever you walk about. We think the Chinese tourists who visit get more of an education into Western tourists as opposed to the minority people living here. Anyhow its nice to look at and the surrounding countryside is stunning, the people are friendly and the food is good! Tomorrow we are planning on hiring some bikes to cycle through some nearby villages and down to the lake where we can catch a ferry further afield and explore the area.
More photos and details to follow soon!
Here we quickly managed to get on the next bus heading to Dali. Despite their being a bus every 15 minutes from 7:30am to 7:30pm every bus is jam-packed with people. Even the trains are fully booked two days in advance, there seems to be a constant exodus and exchange of people all over this country. Looking out over all the big gleaming coaches in the bus station I felt a sense of ‘we made the right choice’, now we will be enjoying a shorter trip to Dali in comfy seats and clean air. Of course this was not to be the case, getting pointed towards the only mongrel bus in the station I realized I was silly to think anything else. We climbed onto a cross between a mini bus and really old coach, waited while the driver went and got more people to get on his bus. With people hopping on and off all the time having a chat and going out for a cigarette every few minutes it seemed we would never leave, but eventually, once every available space had been taken we headed off, to the sound of the creaking and groaning of every joint on the bus.
The main reasons against taking the train: noisy, smoky, cramped atmosphere, and time. We were seated just behind the driver, the most dangerous place to be in a bus as collisions are not uncommon here due to the freestyle driving they employ. We always try and move towards the back of the bus but it was not possible this time. Soon after leaving the driver lights up the first of his constant cigarette chain between here and Dali and shuts the window. The good thing about the bus was despite the creaking noises and constant smoke we didn’t have to be sandwiched between a whole Chinese family eating their lunch or dinner., just Sam and I on slightly more cushioned and comfortable seats.
The road to Dali was a good one, a large three lane motorway with not too much traffic and for once the driver drove at a non pant filling speed which was nice as we had the front row seats. Strangely for a Chinese road there were quite a few traffic cops and speed cameras but the drivers radar detector made sure we were not caught. Also policing the road to ensure the highest level of road safety were cardboard cutouts of police women and men every few miles straddling the central reservation.
Cardboard policemen aside, the journey took us past some other strange sights. First up about an hour from Kunming was the world dinosaur valley, not sure what was in the valley but the villages before and after all had dinosaurs painted on the walls. A few hours later we drove through an area obsessed with mushrooms, the small old villages with white washed walls were decorated with huge paintings of mushrooms… and each house had a different type painted on, no two houses were the same. One mushroom village had also built some huge bright yellow concrete mushroom shaped buildings on the hill behind. All in all the journey was a short one by Chinese standards, this was helped by the fact we are both reading books that have the ability to make us fall asleep after 3-5 pages…. Sarah is reading Moby Dick and Sam Catch-22. Despite their literacy status we have not found either particularly fast paced.
Dali is an old Chinese walled town sandwiched between some big mountains to the West and a great big lake to the East. Unfortunately it’s also really touristy with bars and restaurants geared towards western tourists and local minority women trying to hawk marijuana to you whenever you walk about. We think the Chinese tourists who visit get more of an education into Western tourists as opposed to the minority people living here. Anyhow its nice to look at and the surrounding countryside is stunning, the people are friendly and the food is good! Tomorrow we are planning on hiring some bikes to cycle through some nearby villages and down to the lake where we can catch a ferry further afield and explore the area.
More photos and details to follow soon!
Friday, 4 July 2008
Celebration!
We forgot to say, as of last week we have had over 10000 views of our photos on flickr!
Thats a lot of people!
Thats a lot of people!
Revival!
Hello everyone! Its been a while.. Sarah and I have decided to kick start this beast back into operation as we are heading deeper into the darkness and internet is becoming more difficult to find! Instead of the luxury of emails we are going to try and write more here so you guys can keep track of what we are up if we can't email you all!
After A LOT of deliberation on what we were to do next and problems with visas and my new passport everything has fitted into place nicely and we are back in Southern China. Because the British Embassy managed to make my new passport quicker than the two weeks stated (for the unreal price of 160 pounds - looks like ferrero rocher all round at the embassy) we were able to make it back into China in time, just one day before the re-entrance date on our visa expired. This was a good thing as despite Chinas 'One world, one dream' mantra it is now very difficult for foreigners to obtain a Chinese visa.
We crossed the 'friendship pass' boarder crossing North East of Hanoi and caught a bus to Nanning, the capitol of Guangxi province. Fortunately we were able to get a night train that same evening out of Nanning as, despite its population of 1.5 million there was nothing interesting to keep us interested and the city was just another modern characterless Chinese city (this sounds bad but really its true... more about this soon).
The transition from Hanoi to Kunming has taken us from one kind of dampness to another.. Seven in the morning in Hanoi had us both profusely dripping in sweat unable to dry all day, and Kunming has RAINED non stop for the past three days! Its not even tropical rain, its cold wet drizzly grey rain just like in England! The coldness comes from the altitude - 1890 meters and the wet because its the wet season from now until the end of August! Our arrival in Kunming was a bit of a shock as it had been raining heavily all night and most of the city was under at least a foot of water! To get to our hostel we had to wade through the floodwaters, sewage and various floaters.. nice!
Kunming is yet another Chinese city, this one is the capitol of Yunnan province with a population of 1.2 million. Chinese cities may sound exotic and interesting to the uninitiated but really they are not, the main characteristics are... large featureless glass buildings, huge amounts of construction building more large featureless glass buildings, destruction of anything remotely old or holding character to make way for more large featureless glass buildings, huge amounts of traffic and car fume pollution and shopping malls so vast and filled with luxury goods you could mistake yourself for being in Dubai. Anyway, we have been using Kunming as a base to see some surrounding sights and to prepare ourselves for journeys into more remote parts of Yunnan.
Yunnan is the sixth largest province in China and more interestingly for us is only 50% Han Chinese, the remaining 50% is made up of various ethnic groups who have resisted Han influence and still hold strong local identities. Due to the regions remoteness and ruff rugged terrain its always been a bit of a renigade and has had a history of breaking ties with Beijing.
On a map you will find us just north of Laos and North East of Burma! The scenery here is varied, from thick tropical jungle down in the south (near Burma) to huge mountains in the north (near to Tibet and Sichuan).
We are hoping to travel North East from where we are now towards the mountains of Sichuan and Tibet through various villages and ethnic groups. There are Tibetan areas of Yunnan and Sichuan we are going to try and visit but the word on the street is that they may still be off-limits... We would like to take the 8 day mountain road into Lhasa (capitol of Tibet) from here but its a complete no-no for the Chinese Police, we would be turned back as soon as we leave Sangraii-La. Even though China says Tibet is open to foreign travelers its actually very difficult to enter... the rules are you can only enter via the train or plane or bus from the northern route, you have to be a member of a tour consisting of a group of people all traveling on the same passport type (ie uk), all hotels and tickets must be booked in advance and thats the only place you can stay all through an agency in advance, no visiting a list of monasteries provided by the government (generally the big ones), no traveling outside of Lhasa unless arranged by the same company the original tour was booked through and only after 12 days prior notification by the Tibetan tourist authority (Chinese). All in all its a stupid process that would cost us a fortune in time and money and has only made us more critical of the Chinese handling of the whole situation!
Anyhow, if a journey towards Tibet is not possible we are planning to taking the road North East over the Sichuan mountains towards Chengdu. Not sure of our exact route yet but it will have to take us out west way as in five weeks we will need to be entering Pakistan!
On a different note we have just been reading that the UN has declared this year the year of the potato! With rising costs in rice and failures in wheat harvests they have decided that spuds are the way ahead.... this article has also given a list of the average consumption, in grammes per person per day of various countries in the world, the average being 104 grammes per person per day. China comes out slightly over average at 110 g/p/d, USA 150 g/p/d... us brits doubles that at 310 g/p/d. staggeringly the people in Belarus on average eat 950 grammes per person per day! Thats 50g short of a Kilo each of potatoes EVERY DAY! We found this funny!
Anyway, watch this space for forthcoming updates on our views and stories on traveling in China!
After A LOT of deliberation on what we were to do next and problems with visas and my new passport everything has fitted into place nicely and we are back in Southern China. Because the British Embassy managed to make my new passport quicker than the two weeks stated (for the unreal price of 160 pounds - looks like ferrero rocher all round at the embassy) we were able to make it back into China in time, just one day before the re-entrance date on our visa expired. This was a good thing as despite Chinas 'One world, one dream' mantra it is now very difficult for foreigners to obtain a Chinese visa.
We crossed the 'friendship pass' boarder crossing North East of Hanoi and caught a bus to Nanning, the capitol of Guangxi province. Fortunately we were able to get a night train that same evening out of Nanning as, despite its population of 1.5 million there was nothing interesting to keep us interested and the city was just another modern characterless Chinese city (this sounds bad but really its true... more about this soon).
The transition from Hanoi to Kunming has taken us from one kind of dampness to another.. Seven in the morning in Hanoi had us both profusely dripping in sweat unable to dry all day, and Kunming has RAINED non stop for the past three days! Its not even tropical rain, its cold wet drizzly grey rain just like in England! The coldness comes from the altitude - 1890 meters and the wet because its the wet season from now until the end of August! Our arrival in Kunming was a bit of a shock as it had been raining heavily all night and most of the city was under at least a foot of water! To get to our hostel we had to wade through the floodwaters, sewage and various floaters.. nice!
Kunming is yet another Chinese city, this one is the capitol of Yunnan province with a population of 1.2 million. Chinese cities may sound exotic and interesting to the uninitiated but really they are not, the main characteristics are... large featureless glass buildings, huge amounts of construction building more large featureless glass buildings, destruction of anything remotely old or holding character to make way for more large featureless glass buildings, huge amounts of traffic and car fume pollution and shopping malls so vast and filled with luxury goods you could mistake yourself for being in Dubai. Anyway, we have been using Kunming as a base to see some surrounding sights and to prepare ourselves for journeys into more remote parts of Yunnan.
Yunnan is the sixth largest province in China and more interestingly for us is only 50% Han Chinese, the remaining 50% is made up of various ethnic groups who have resisted Han influence and still hold strong local identities. Due to the regions remoteness and ruff rugged terrain its always been a bit of a renigade and has had a history of breaking ties with Beijing.
On a map you will find us just north of Laos and North East of Burma! The scenery here is varied, from thick tropical jungle down in the south (near Burma) to huge mountains in the north (near to Tibet and Sichuan).
We are hoping to travel North East from where we are now towards the mountains of Sichuan and Tibet through various villages and ethnic groups. There are Tibetan areas of Yunnan and Sichuan we are going to try and visit but the word on the street is that they may still be off-limits... We would like to take the 8 day mountain road into Lhasa (capitol of Tibet) from here but its a complete no-no for the Chinese Police, we would be turned back as soon as we leave Sangraii-La. Even though China says Tibet is open to foreign travelers its actually very difficult to enter... the rules are you can only enter via the train or plane or bus from the northern route, you have to be a member of a tour consisting of a group of people all traveling on the same passport type (ie uk), all hotels and tickets must be booked in advance and thats the only place you can stay all through an agency in advance, no visiting a list of monasteries provided by the government (generally the big ones), no traveling outside of Lhasa unless arranged by the same company the original tour was booked through and only after 12 days prior notification by the Tibetan tourist authority (Chinese). All in all its a stupid process that would cost us a fortune in time and money and has only made us more critical of the Chinese handling of the whole situation!
Anyhow, if a journey towards Tibet is not possible we are planning to taking the road North East over the Sichuan mountains towards Chengdu. Not sure of our exact route yet but it will have to take us out west way as in five weeks we will need to be entering Pakistan!
On a different note we have just been reading that the UN has declared this year the year of the potato! With rising costs in rice and failures in wheat harvests they have decided that spuds are the way ahead.... this article has also given a list of the average consumption, in grammes per person per day of various countries in the world, the average being 104 grammes per person per day. China comes out slightly over average at 110 g/p/d, USA 150 g/p/d... us brits doubles that at 310 g/p/d. staggeringly the people in Belarus on average eat 950 grammes per person per day! Thats 50g short of a Kilo each of potatoes EVERY DAY! We found this funny!
Anyway, watch this space for forthcoming updates on our views and stories on traveling in China!
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